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Der Untergeher #2020

Der Untergeher Der Erz hler in dem zuerst publizierten Werk wohnt in Madrid und schreibt eine Arbeit ber den kanadischen Pianisten Glenn Gould den wichtigsten Klaviervirtuosen des Jahrhunderts der auf dem G

  • Title: Der Untergeher
  • Author: Thomas Bernhard
  • ISBN: 9783518379974
  • Page: 172
  • Format: Paperback
  • Der Untergeher By Thomas Bernhard, Der Erz hler in dem zuerst 1983 publizierten Werk wohnt in Madrid und schreibt eine Arbeit ber den kanadischen Pianisten Glenn Gould, den wichtigsten Klaviervirtuosen des Jahrhunderts , der, auf dem Gipfel seiner Kunst, aufh rte zu spielen In Madrid erreicht den Erz hler ein Telegramm, das das Begr bnis seines Freundes Wertheimer anzeigt, der sich umgebracht hat Die drDer Erz hler in dem zuerst 1983 publizierten Werk wohnt in Madrid und schreibt eine Arbeit ber den kanadischen Pianisten Glenn Gould, den wichtigsten Klaviervirtuosen des Jahrhunderts , der, auf dem Gipfel seiner Kunst, aufh rte zu spielen In Madrid erreicht den Erz hler ein Telegramm, das das Begr bnis seines Freundes Wertheimer anzeigt, der sich umgebracht hat Die drei hatten sich in Salzburg bei einem Musikkurs von Horowitz kennengelernt Bald stellte sich heraus Glenn Gould war das gr te Genie Unter dem Eindruck der bermacht dieses Genies wurde der Erz hler zu einem Weltanschauungsk nstler , zum Kritiker seiner Zeit und besonders zum Kritiker sterreichs, Wertheimer dagegen st rzte in eine unumkehrbare Existenzdepression Je mehr der Erz hler an seinen Versuch ber Glenn dachte, um so deutlicher wurde ihm, da es ihm eigentlich darum zu tun war, sich Klarheit ber Wertheimer, den Untergeher , wie Glenn Gould schon fr h zu ihm gesagt hatte, zu verschaffen.

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    2. In most of his fictions including this novella the Austrian Thomas Bernhard insults everything Austrian In fact, Bernhard declared in his will that every one of his literary works in perpetuity must not be printed or presented within the state of Austria, or within the geographical boundaries of the present state of Austria, whatever that area may in the future be called Yet he never made an attempt to emigrate he lived in Austria all his life.Bernhard was a man of contradictions, and his works [...]

    3. Well, here we are again in the land of obsessive compulsive disorder, suicidal rage and death panic It s like Bernhard has one channel and one channel only sturm und drang, but without the post Enlightenment restraint How did Richard Hugo put it hatred of the various grays the mountain sends Bernhard s satirical narrators are against everything especially mountains, in this case the Alps, nature, people, society, art, any and all institutions, the church, the state, you name it No culture, usual [...]

    4. Bernhard is amazing, and this book perfectly captures his obsession with obsession His narrator is a music student who realizes he s a failure when he, Glenn Gould, and another pianist study together, and nobody can hold a candle to Gould, the supreme genius It s told in Bernhard s inimitable style, as one long rambling looping paragraph that takes ideas and beholds them from several angles, all the while maintaining a relentless energy that just takes my breath away.

    5. A single paragraph One breathless monologue Genius Failure Perfection Obsession Friendship Death The Genius, the Philosopher, the Loser The musical genius of Glenn Gould, the pinnacle of art, is what serves as the reference defining all three of their lives Werthemier the titular Loser finds himself woefully dwarfed by the perfection of Gould as a piano artist The frustration of recognizing his worthlessness and knowing that he will never be able to reach the top leads him to give up his piano c [...]

    6. everything is ridiculous if one thinks of death This is what Bernhard said as a part of his acceptance speech for the Austrian State Prize for Literature So, Yeah That s the kind of man he was Along with many other writers, I discovered Bernhard through only The next step is usually checking out the author s profile, from where I found the following description Thomas Bernhard was an Austrian author, who ranges among the most distinguished German speaking writers of the second half of the 20th c [...]

    7. Grey The color that most of the characters created during large part of twentieth century and whole of twenty first century till date, are painted in Cruelly banishing the evergreen Black and all star White to secondary positions, Grey has risen in ranks to be the heroic hue of all famous characters The modern reader in me haughtily merges this contemporary thought into her conversations and discusses the grey shades of the latest literary protagonist she has encountered But the conventional rea [...]

    8. Recommended soundtrack for this review.Of course Thomas Bernhard s The Loser covers some of the usual Bernhardian terrain misanthropy, madness, death, all the fun stuff really but failure is the real star of this show The Loser of the title, named Wertheimer, was unfortunate enough both to have been a gifted piano player and to have studied contemporaneously with piano legend Glenn Gould, whose life and genius albeit in a somewhat fictionalized form haunt Wertheimer until he is at long last able [...]

    9. But of course the world consists only of absurd ideas What a soul piercing read After I finished The Loser by Thomas Bernhard I thought this is how you write a book Or well, a long internal monologue that rambles on and on without any pauses It s simply amazing satire with a lot of absurdism, nihilism, and self destructiveness narrated in one breath All my tendencies are deadly ones, he once said to me, everything in me has a deadly tendency to it, it s in my genes, as Wertheimer said, I thought [...]

    10. Again and again we picture ourselves sitting together with the people we feel drawn to all our lives, precisely these so called simple people, whom naturally we imagine much differently from the way they truly are, for if we actually sit down with them we see that they aren t the way we ve pictured them and that we absolutely don t belong with them, as we ve talked ourselves into believing, and we get rejected at their table and in their midst as we logically should get after sitting down at the [...]

    11. lo dico nel modo pi rapido e indolore, e mi defilo prima che qualcuno abbia tempo di tagliarmi le gomme alla bici per me sono tre stelle, e nemmeno un fotone di pi rch va benissimo l idea della stretta coerenza tra il racconto e la forma che prende un romanzo in cui le variazioni goldberg hanno un ruolo da co protagonista, scritto come una ossessiva variazione nei temi e nello stile ma qui ci sono pagine e pagine con gli stessi concetti ripetuti allo sfinimento per due o tre proposizioni di fila [...]

    12. Funnier and nastier and less full of shit than anything I ve ever read More laughs per ten pages than Sedaris etc, but with WAY MORE suicide Awesome Austrian lit Glenn Gould, the one true piano genius One paragraph for 155 pages Zero pretension Few sentences extended over the course of the book in fugue state Sort of like lame ass literary fiction if you removed every standard literary convention plot, dialogue, setting, scenes and just freakin mainlined the narrator s consciousness I remember M [...]

    13. O Glenn Gould, o nosso amigo e o mais importante virtuoso do piano do s culo, tamb m s fez 51 anos, pensava eu ao entrar na estalagem.S que esse n o se matou como o Werthermer mas morreu, como se costuma dizer, de morte natural Assim se inicia O N ufrago E tudo N s em teoria compreendemos as pessoas, mas na pr tica n o as suportamos, pensei, na maior parte das vezes s a contragosto lidamos com elas, e tratamo las sempre de acordo com o nosso pr prio ponto de vista dizia ele, pensei eu como se ex [...]

    14. We all know hasbeens who never were, so are really hasn tbeens My first wife, Mary Quattro, played the spoons in the Intergalactic Pipe Cleaners, a polka and celtic disco band who kept audiences enthralled with their wild interpretations of traditionals in the style of Ottawan and other disco groovers She was forever in the shadow of Niles Vee, a percussionist of rare merit, who was at home on maracas and spoons This outrageous two instrument skill was impossible for poor Mary to beat, so she sp [...]

    15. Um livro soberbo de Thomas Bernhard, que, com o seu habitual estilo el ptico, incisivo e jocoso em forma de mon logo interno, narra a destrui o de um pianista perante a incapacidade de atingir a genialidade art stica.

    16. When I discovered that Bernhard had written a novel about Glenn Gould, I felt there is order in the universe I have the same feeling whenever I listen to Bach

    17. This book should be hidden inside the dust jackets of all the self help books out there You don t need help once you realize that helplessness is the basic condition that surrounds us Helplessness of a genius to be that way and of the Loser to struggle against this helplessness Bernhard is amazing And I think my suicide gets delayed, until I have finished reading all what he has written Lets understand suicide before committing to it.

    18. If you are fond of classical music, you will probably like this novel The world of musicians, their hopes and ambitions are skillfully depicted I also liked the idea that the story is fictionalised about the great pianist Glen Gould s real story.

    19. Noi esseri umani, devastanti e devastantisi Soccombere, corrosi da s stessi, infallibilmente Fatico ad alzarmi, colpita al cuore Tentenno Il soccombente gi stato messo al mondo come soccombente, pensai, stato da sempre il soccombente.

    20. Ever wondered if you were a genius Or desperately wanted to be one I think that most people of a certain level of intelligence or prowess at a given art sport etc have done both, but The Loser will make you think twice Plenty of novels have been written about genius from its own perspective Ratner s Star and Infinite Jest are a couple of examples, though by no means the best ones They ask what it s like to be a genius, what truly makes a genius tick And in the cases of both those examples, the a [...]

    21. Voleva essere artista, a lui non bastava essere l artista della propria vita, bench questo concetto racchiuda tutto ci che pu rendere felice qualsiasi persona lungimirante, pensai Wertheimer insomma si era innamorato, o addirittura era rimasto ammaliato dal proprio fallimento, pensai, e in questo fallimento si era incaponito fino alla fine In effetti potrei dire perfino che pur essendo certamente infelice nella sua infelicit , sarebbe stato ancora pi infelice se dall oggi al domani avesse smarri [...]

    22. Bernhard certainly is an intense one The Loser is a cerebral and methodical dissection of genius, perfectionism, obsession, and music in short Glenn Gould The writing is schizophrenic and enraging at times Bernhard was never content to tell an easy story in an easy manner, and in fact, he makes it about as difficult as possible for the reader, with frequent, feverish bouts of repetition, little character development, and ideas about everything that just seem to leap out and then vanish back into [...]

    23. Le variazioni BernhardLo lessi e contemporaneamente lo ascoltai attraverso l ottima lettura di Elia Schilton per Ad alta voce Fu una bella esperienza, pensai seguire le parole scritte e ascoltarle contemporaneamente contribu a mantenere la concentrazione su un libro complesso, diede ritmo e musicalit al testo cosa non trascurabile visto il tema del romanzo, pensai mise in rilievo le particolarit stilistiche della scrittura, fece cogliere con maggior nettezza quelle figure retoriche anafore e all [...]

    24. Noi siamo come siamo, non abbiamo altra sceltaLe Variazioni Goldberg sono tra i brani pi noti composti da Johann Sebastian Bach Originalmente scritte per clavicembalo, sono state trasposte per pianoforte negli anni cinquanta del secolo scorso, specialmente grazie al geniale pianista canadese Glenn Gould.Queste variazioni sono costituite da un Aria, seguita da 30 variazioni sull armonia della stessa e un Aria da capo, identica alla prima La scrittura di queste variazioni unica e prevede il riperc [...]

    25. I am writing this review whilst listening to Glenn Gould perform the Goldberg Variations here video.google videoplay doc He is truly amazing, and if nothing else, The loser led me to this virtuoso Bernhard never knew Glenn Gould, of course, but he zeroed in on him as the perfect instrument with which to ply his vitriolic satire directed at his fellow Austrian the nation known for nurturing some of the greatest composers of all time is subjected to the waxilirical adulation of a Canadian Why Beca [...]

    26. Loser is an irrational tale told by an irrational man about his irrational friend a triumph of paranoia The so called intellectual consumes himself in what he considers pathbreaking work and in the end has only succeeded in making himself ridiculous, whether he s called Schopenhauer or Nietzsche, it doesn t matter, even if he was Kleist or Voltaire we still see a pitiful being who has misused his head and finally driven himself into nonsense Who s been rolled over and passed over by history We v [...]

    27. Nesre a ljudskih bi a je u tome to ne ele da po u svojim putem , uvek ele da po u nekim drugim Bore se i te e ne em sasvim druk ijem od onoga to su Svako je izuzetna li nost, bilo da kre i, ili isti ulice, ili pi e, ili ali ljudi uvek ho e ne to drugo To je nesre a ovog sveta Ova re enica mada je preuzeta iz biografije na kraju knjige u potpunusti opisuje njenu sadr inu Sva trojca su upisala akademiju ele i da steknu slavu, Glen Guld je odu evio svet svojom virtuozno u , ali izgleda da on sam ni [...]

    28. Tr s amigos pianistas Um, o narrador, que decide abandonar a m sica e oferecer o seu valioso piano a uma menina de prov ncia sem qualquer talento para o of cio outro, o g nio Glenn Gould, que vive a m sica com tal intensidade que morre de s ncope enquanto pratica a sua arte outro ainda que, consciente da sua incapacidade de atingir a virtuosidade de Gould, opta pelo su c dio.Um livro que, em forma de mon logo interior e num nico f lego, num nico par grafo sim, esta narrativa n o tem par grafos , [...]

    29. At one point I was reading this at the bar in a diner at, like, a little past midnight and this foreign sounding guy came up to me and said You re reading that Zee best fevvorite and kissed the tips of his fingers like you do I already wrote some of my feelings about Mr Bernhard in my review of his Wittgenstein s Nephew so I ll just post some Glenn Gould vids in lieu of another blathering review Goldberg variations youtube watch v 2XwojD Beethoven youtube watch v FL0u9Q Chopin youtube watch v YM [...]

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